Should socialists be allowed in the Temple?

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Should socialists be allowed in the Temple?

Post by learning » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:03 pm

Every prophet in my lifetime has declared publicly that socialism is of the devil.

Some of the less intelligent may suggest that a little socialism as alright. This however, is like having a little raw sewage in your morning milk. Just how much war sewage in your milk is acceptable?

We know that Lucifer was kicked out of heaven for his socialist views, more particularly his no child left behind view. We also know that this defect in character is far deeper than a genetic defect and in fact can not be repaired. This is why God removed the ability to repent from Lucifer. Lucifer will never repent because he thinks he is right. Just a democrats think that it is alright to steal money at gunpoint from one person and give it to another in a form of wealth distribution. Both plans are evil or Satanic.

We know that every point in the national democratic platform is evil. We know that democrats have a way of naming a program something good, when in fact every single time the exact opposite is true. For instance the affordable healthcare act which was totally unaffordable.

A Bible scholar with the Canada Free Press expresses it this way: https://canadafreepress.com/article/is- ... ther-satan

We know that the foundation of the democratic party is Marxism as outlined in Saul Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals".

The national democratic committee has mandated that in order to consider oneself a democrat, one must approve of abortion at any time during a pregnancy including three hundredths of a second before birth.

We know that the democratic party leaders are among the most evil people on the face of the earth and perhaps in all eternity.

We know that the FBI and Department of Justice are so incredibly corrupt as to protect the most vile of human beings such as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

So when a person purports to be a member of the democratic party, he/she is in fact admitting membership in an organization whose sole purpose is to thwart the plan of God and to utterly destroy the United States of America and other countries in order to create a new world order in which Satan is the supreme leader.

So when a Bishop or Stake President asks a prospective Temple visitor question number seven which specifically asks "Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?" and a democrat lies in order to obtain admission into the Temple, the Bishop and Stake President both know this person is a democrat and is lying.

So in all cases, 100% of the time that a democrat obtains admittance into the Temple, it is under false pretenses.

Certainly, there is no organization on the face of the earth today or at any other time in history that is more anti-Christ than the democratic party.

So now we understand with 100% certainty that any Bishop or Stake President that allows a democrat into the Temple is acting against the teachings of both Jesus Christ and The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints.

So the question begging to be asked is WHY? Some think that the church leadership is afraid of the United States and it's military which could again issue an order of extermination as it did in Joseph Smith's time.

Certainly there is no person as vile as a democrat and no organization represents as big of a threat to freedom as the democratic party. But this should be no surprise as the democrat party is headed by Satan himself and so it is simply a continuation of the war in heaven in which Lucifer set out to prove that socialism is better than capitalism or any other form of government. Only the most idiotic of individuals will fail to give credit to God's inspired capitalism form of government for making the United States the greatest nation on earth in a very short time.

The question has been asked before, many times. Can a democrat be a Mormon? and the answer is absolutely not! It simply is not possible for he will hate the one or the other and can not follow two masters.

Some double digit IQ readers may suggest that John F Kennedy was not the Satanist that his brother was. True, but Satan did not yet have complete control of the democratic party at that time. First Satan had to get men to conspire to kill the president so that he could obtain their hearts as well as their minds. It is said that when you have a man by his balls, his heart and mind soon follow. Clearly, the corruption that exists in today's government allows men to be controlled by blackmail. Having forced sex with an unwilling 9 year old is not something you want in the papers. This is why the Clinton Foundation financed pizzagate.

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Re: Should socialists be allowed in the Temple?

Post by Liberty » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:11 pm

Absolutely not! according to David O, McKay
https://celestialforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=656

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Re: Should socialists be allowed in the Temple?

Post by ibaconi » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:50 pm

The LDS church gave it a try under the auspices of "prophets of God." Early Mormons not only experimented with communalism (I know, I know, there are other descriptive terms), socialism, alternative marriages (including same-sex marriages). The communalism was referred to as "the law of consecration." You may be familiar with Mormon sects such as City of Enoch which imitate the scriptural City of Enoch in which all was held in common. For a time, during the 30's the "United Order" was a requirement of membership, (as was polygamy), members would then "consetrate" all their properties. Members still controlled their properties but any excess was donated to the order. It is a principle still carried on by various Mormon sects.

Joseph Smith claimed to have received a revelation directing members of the church to "impart of their land and money to the church." Brigham Young also experimented with the same principle, but as socialism ALWAYS does (outside the City of Enoch) it failed. "The habits of an acquisitive society were too strongly forged to be broken without the utmost devotion and selflessness to the cause, and rugged individualism triumphed over the abortive attempt at communal ownership and communal living here. It was said at the time that the members were not strong enough in their faith, and that at some future time the "law of consecration" will once again be observed.

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Re: Should socialists be allowed in the Temple?

Post by Floyd » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:52 pm

There are a couple major differences between the Law of Consecration or The United Order and socialism. Of course it makes a vast difference depending on who is in charge. In fact, even for capitalism to succeed, it makes a vast difference who is in charge. When God inspired the Founding Fathers to organize the unique form of government that had never been tried before, it became obvious that it would only work as long as the people lived lives based on morals and values associated with God being in charge and the citizens using the Ten Commandments as a guide.

In the case of the early Mormons, greed set in and put the kabosh to the united order.

Living under a Constitutional Republic requires the citizens to have a higher moral standard than say the Satanic socialist democracy that Bernie and Hillary want. It matters a great deal who is in charge. If only the top 1% of the top 1% enjoy vast wealth and everyone else shares equally in the left over scraps, then that is far different than the United Order wherein equality was to be across the board.

As it turns out, we can't even make a Constitutional Republic work because the illegal aliens are lazy pieces of shit that want to share equally in the dividends but not in the effort to make it so.

Of course the definition of equal is different among whites and coloreds. Whites have always worked and shared. Thing is, God did not make everyone equal. Because everyone is not equal. This is because different people will always have different levels of achievement. It was this way even before the earth was. Before human bodies there was spirits and they also have always had different levels of achievement. And there had to be as many different degrees of circumstances to be born into as there was levels of achievement in the spirit world. We were all born equal to what we deserved.

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Re: Should socialists be allowed in the Temple?

Post by ibaconi » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:57 am

Floyd wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:52 pm
There are a couple major differences between the Law of Consecration or The United Order and socialism. Of course it makes a vast difference depending on who is in charge.
Indeed, but the bottom line is that it was human nature that took over. The very thing that makes socialism impossible, made (and still makes) the Law of Consecration equally impossible. The reason capitalism works is that it reflects perfectly the controlling aspects of human nature. Christianity provides the perfect blueprint for proper control of human morality, which is one of the reasons the commie-libs are so intent on destroying Christianity, while proudly "tolerating" Islam. Capitalism provides the perfect blueprint for financial stability. Even under the consideration of Christian morality, regulation is necessary to keep "bad guys" (liberals/Islam...(Church of Satan???)) under control (the very thing we're missing in the USA right now). Oh well, at least they're controlling drinking straws in San Francisco!

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Re: Should socialists be allowed in the Temple?

Post by Floyd » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:28 pm

The human frailties or in your words "human nature" aside, the object of the original post is to point out that socialism in and of itself is based on theft from the productive in order to support the lazy. Theft at gun point I might add. The Law of Consecration was a completely voluntary program. Big difference.

I do believe in charity. Charity at gunpoint is something else altogether.

Socialism also makes vastly rich the administrators which is an important element not present in the United Order.

Socialism is of evil origin. It has never worked. It will never work. For an organization whose leaders have declared that "socialism is of the devil" for over a hundred years to allow the practicers and believers of the same to participate in what are considered to be sacred ordinances is hypocrisy at a minimum and flat out treason against the religion in my opinion. And if a person is to act in such a manner that is diametrically opposed to the religion, I fail to see the point of being involved with the religion.

I realize that 50% of Mormons right off the top are full of shit idiots that have no idea what they even believe in the first place. That is a conservative number. People that I have talked with regarding the matter tend to believe the number is closer to 90% of the membership that believe the religion means something different than what it actually means.

But then that brings us back to that human frailty thing again.

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Re: Should socialists be allowed in the Temple?

Post by learning » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:27 am

The LDS Church has never gave it a try. What they tried was far different.


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